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Katie: Howdy and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And this episode is with considered one of my pricey private associates and it’s all about back-to-school well being routines and stress administration for the entire household. And I’m right here with Tina Anderson, who you may need heard from earlier than. I’ll hyperlink to her earlier episodes within the present notes, however she is, like I mentioned, a pricey private good friend and somebody whose work I respect deeply.

Her journey into the well being world was fairly distinctive. She truly started her profession as a trial lawyer who specialised in settling instances by bringing either side collectively, which is a private ardour of hers. However as soon as she had children, she realized that was actually excessive stress for her household. And so she was in a position to make use of her authorized abilities to level her profession in a route because the in-house counsel for a household firm in prescribed drugs. However what she noticed there made her change route once more, as a result of she was pissed off by lots of the abuses she noticed within the pharmaceutical trade. And he or she turned towards the sphere of pure well being and located her life’s work and function.

And he or she started to analysis all she might about illness prevention and good well being upkeep and obtained deeply into intestine well being and the way linked the intestine is for total well being. And so to share all of this info with the world, she and her husband created a complement firm largely primarily based round probiotics. They usually now have an entire line of actually impactful dietary supplements that my household takes.

However on this episode, we go deep on the subject of preparing for again to highschool. We speak about parenting, mindset, together with a incredible technique that her dad used that helped form her optimistic mindset. We speak about her life mantra that I realized from her. After which we go deep on key components for good intestine well being, the largest myths about probiotics, what to know when searching for a probiotic, how 90% of serotonin is produced within the intestine, what psychobiotics are, and a lot extra. It’s all the time a pleasure to speak to Tina. So let’s be part of her now. Tina, welcome again.

Tina: Thanks, Katie. I’m so excited to be right here with you.

Katie: It’s all the time a pleasure to speak to you. We’re very a lot actual life associates and I additionally think about you want one of many folks I am going to for recommendation. You’ve obtained children who at the moment are grown and who you might have superior relationships with. And I like having you as a sounding board and a good friend. And I’m glad that as we speak I get to ask you a few of those self same questions and we get to file it and let others share the dialog as effectively. So I’m very grateful that you just’re right here.

And for this episode, we wished to give attention to the theme of again to highschool. I do know I’m gearing up for that with my children proper now. Plenty of different households most likely are as effectively. And you’ve got not less than greater than 18 years of expertise of this together with your children and their varied totally different ages. So I really feel like it is a matter that may very well be an entire collection of episodes each on the bodily well being aspect, the psychological well being aspect, the stress reduction aspect, the group, the getting again in a routine. There’s so many issues we might cowl. However to start out broad, I might love to listen to if you happen to guys had any type of traditions, routines or something in your loved ones across the again to highschool time.

Tina: Yeah, you recognize, I feel what I simply have such fond reminiscences of is simply the entire going again to highschool buying. , they beloved getting their college provides once they had been little and, you recognize, we’d all the time exit for ice cream afterwards and simply form of make it form of enjoyable, a bit of custom. And so, after which we’d do, you recognize, the opposite enjoyable half was like discovering on the market’s a trainer, you recognize, once they return to highschool and so they discover out their trainer and it could, it could, we’d all go collectively and it could be this unveiling. And it was simply, it was enjoyable. There was stress concerned in it as a result of we’re like, oh, what in the event that they don’t get a good friend that they need of their class and all that. But it surely was, it was all the time, we all the time tried to make it actually enjoyable.

Katie: I like that. I feel my expertise is a bit of totally different with homeschooling, though we do nonetheless the varsity buying half. However for us, it’s like gearing up for the sports activities and so they nonetheless have very energetic social lives, however normally by means of their actions versus by means of college. However one factor I do know that could be a concern for lots of households is, and particularly with youthful children, that again to highschool part and reintroducing with a much bigger group of individuals tends to even be typically a bit of little bit of an immune system problem. Plus now we have all through, as we undergo the autumn, the climate cools down, we’re getting much less vibrant gentle and daylight, extra indoors, extra all this stuff that may type of construct as much as form of take successful on our immune system.

And so one factor I take into consideration lots this time of yr is we’re transferring into that’s what are among the issues we will proactively do to maintain our our bodies, our immune programs and our bodily well being optimum, even whereas we’re placing much more inputs into it? So do you might have any methods for that, for holding our immune system sturdy, for holding from getting sick as a lot as attainable as we return into the varsity, the varsity form of routine?

Tina: Effectively, I feel you hit the nail on the pinnacle with not being outdoors as a lot and never seeing the brightness and the sunshine. I feel now we have to be extra prescriptive about being outdoors within the solar and getting an honest quantity of sunshine throughout the day, even within the winter months and the autumn months, such as you talked about. I feel we’re, and these children are simply sitting down all day. In the summertime, they’re operating round, taking part in, transferring their our bodies far more than they’re throughout the college yr. And I feel simply attempting to get them to be transferring extra. And I feel as dad and mom, we simply, I imply, the errors I made, I feel was with my oldest, particularly, I might be like, oh, we obtained to get good grades and we have to give attention to this.

And, you recognize, now, my God, now I see a lot extra clearly and understand that there have been so many, there have been so many different essential issues to be specializing in, like getting the daylight and getting, and never being so harassed, placing a lot strain on our children with grades and, and the way you, you recognize, what you probably did on this report and simply focusing extra on well being and wellness. And I feel I did that extra with my youngest. I used to be way more consistent with attempting to get him outdoors extra and being out in nature. So I feel that might be one space to start out together with your immune system, simply attempting to get some extra outdoors sunshine and be extra energetic as a result of we simply grow to be so sedentary after we had been again to highschool.

Katie: That’s so true. And also you’re positively considered one of my inspirations on this as a result of I’ve gotten to journey with you just a few instances and seen your routine. And also you’re so good about getting morning daylight, which I do know I’ve talked about on right here so many instances and the way essential that’s for our circadian well being. And likewise you’re like such an inspiration in going for walks outdoors. I do know we’ve had conversations the place we went for a stroll, even in some form of attention-grabbing areas like downtown New Orleans at totally different instances.

However I really feel like that is perhaps considered one of many causes that you’re such a ball of vitality is that you just make time, intentional time for motion and time outdoors, which it’s humorous that we’d like science to remind us of this, however the research simply preserve form of exhibiting up about why these issues are so essential. And I really feel such as you’re such an excellent instance of that.

Tina: Yeah, effectively, thanks. I beloved it. And I might stroll my children to highschool. I used to be in a neighborhood that allowed us to do this. And I feel that if you happen to can stroll your children to highschool and you’ve got the flexibleness to do it, I used to be lucky. I labored from house. I used to be capable of stroll them to highschool, however simply getting them began out, strolling is so essential. I feel, after which simply, after which, you recognize, even in highschool, you recognize, a whole lot of children are driving going again to highschool and it’s, and I simply assume attempting to get them to simply be energetic and transfer extra and simply empowering them with that. I feel that’s the opposite factor as dad and mom.

I’ve realized is you could’t simply inform them one thing, you recognize, you want to present them the analysis and you must present, like have them watch a documentary a few matter that you just wish to train them about simply because that’s how they actually begin to empower themselves and actually then they’re going to make the modifications. They’re not going to make the change. They could make the modifications quickly while you inform them, however when, you recognize, they’re empowered by the data and understanding of what’s occurring within the analysis, they’re going to start out making higher modifications.

Katie: I agree. And that’s a recurring theme, I feel, when anytime we speak about parenting on this Podcast can be, to your level, the significance of modeling. And I feel it’s so true that that saying that mentioned in many alternative methods to many alternative folks, the concept that what we are saying is essential and so they’ll typically pay attention, however they’re going to pay much more consideration to what we do, even when they faux they’re not or if they struggle to not, that’s what’s going to stay within the long-term.

And so I feel as mothers, particularly, such as you mentioned, that is what helps us to maintain that focus of us modeling the factor is definitely the factor that’s going to profit them probably the most. That is most likely why we see that statistic {that a} mother’s train and health stage truly has a dramatic impression on her children. It’s as a result of I consider that modeling and them seeing it, which by us doing it, it truly offers them permission to prioritize it as effectively. And so I really feel like that is considered one of my core type of parenting rules is perhaps communicate much less and mannequin extra.

Tina: Sure, yeah, I like that. I completely agree with you.

Katie: What about any ideas for, so my oldest are simply now within the teenage years, any ideas for holding good traces of communication and good relationship together with your children as they undergo the teenage years and into maturity? As a result of I do know from interacting with your loved ones, you might have an superior relationship with your whole children and a really shut, each speedy and prolonged household. And I feel that’s so lovely. So any ideas for nurturing that?

Tina: Yeah, thanks. I imply, it’s what I’m most happy with in my life is my household that we constructed and the connection that I’ve with my children. And you recognize, it’s so humorous, so many individuals have requested me this. And I feel one of many issues I bear in mind when my children had been in highschool and you recognize, perhaps they weren’t partaking within the actions that different folks had been so far as, you recognize, perhaps the behaviors they weren’t alleged to be doing. My children had been like, oh, I don’t wish to try this.

And, and other people would say like, how did you might have your children not try this at that age? And I’m like, I don’t, I don’t actually know aside from I simply made house a really secure place. Not, not simply secure. All of us wish to make our house secure, however extra like snug that it’s okay that it’s Friday evening and also you’re a sophomore in highschool and also you don’t have plans. Like that’s okay. Simply hang around with us and be at house with us.

And I by no means, like I might by no means be like, oh, what are your mates doing? , why aren’t you going out? And effectively, can’t you discover any plans? Or I might all the time simply make it like, oh, what do you, what are we going to do Friday evening? What would you like for dinner with, you recognize, dad and I? And so I might, it was extra about, you recognize, making it regular that they had been house with us and never like you must be comply with the social norms of like doing issues.

They did loads of social actions in highschool, however you recognize, all of them undergo phases the place associates perhaps begin to change and teams begin to change. And I simply assume it’s essential that we make it regular that hang around with us. And for us, I imply, that’s simply the way in which we love hanging out with one another. And I feel that was actually essential. And never being so strict. I feel the much less strict we’re, and I imply, children want boundaries. I’m an enormous proponent of that. I feel children, particularly in youngsters, positively want boundaries, however simply, you recognize, not being so judgmental about perhaps they made a mistake and so they made a alternative that they shouldn’t have made, however not judging them on a regular basis and making them really feel dangerous about issues. I feel that has actually helped us be very open about issues.

Katie: That’s such an important level, particularly in these situations the place they make a mistake as a result of they’re most likely going to study sufficient from that lesson from having made the error and possibly be more durable on themselves than we may very well be. And so I really feel like if we will allow them to preserve the possession of that, not take it away from them by judging them externally and never having to have them justify it and defend, which I feel then places extra vitality into the motion itself. I like that strategy.

And I feel additionally you touched on one thing helpful, which is it doesn’t matter what age they’re, we will’t, I neglect who mentioned this, however we will’t make them and we will’t repair them. Like all these issues have to return from within them. And so if we will view it as how can we help them in these classes and be the secure place they will study these classes with out judgment, I feel that basically helps that relationship. And I additionally love, it looks like you do that so effectively in your house, of being the place the place not simply your children, however anyone can go and it’s a spot of unconditional love. And that was what I all the time actually wished to intention for. And it appears to be taking part in out with my youngsters is I wished to be the place the place they all the time felt snug having their associates, the place everyone was all the time welcome. I’ll feed anyone’s child who’s in my home and hopefully they all the time really feel that there’s unconditional love there. I feel that’s like an intangible that we will’t put a value on, however one which like hopefully actually helps that relationship for our complete lives with our children.

Tina: Yeah, and I imply, you’re a full mannequin of that. I imply, I bear in mind being over and having all these children round and simply everybody having a lot enjoyable and being energetic. And it’s actually essential to have your private home be that method for everybody. I additionally assume like to the touch upon grades, I feel that’s one of many greatest classes as a mum or dad I realized. I imply, I used to be so totally different parenting my oldest than my youngest. And I feel now we have to simply give attention to studying. I’m certain you speak about this on a regular basis, Katie, I do know you do, however it’s like, you recognize, the grade will not be, I simply really feel prefer it’s virtually irrelevant.

, I imply, what I give attention to, particularly my youngest is in faculty now, I’m like, simply give attention to studying. I simply need you to study. The grade, your GPA means nothing to me. It means it ought to imply nothing to you. It’s like, and you recognize, usually while you’re studying and also you’re actually specializing in studying, no matter it’s, the grades fall into place. However I feel we simply get so caught up, particularly in highschool with, you recognize, learning for, attempting to get into schools and all the social patterns that we’re alleged to comply with. I simply would warning everyone to simply have your give attention to studying. Attempt to get your little one to like to study no matter matter it’s and in no matter method it’s. It doesn’t must be within the classroom. It may very well be Ted Talks, it may very well be no matter it’s.

Katie: Completely. That’s a ability that may serve you your complete life and that hopefully all of us as adults are nonetheless doing daily in some type. However you’re proper. I feel I didn’t study that lesson till maturity. I very a lot was so frightened about grades in highschool and I feel I connected elements of my id to how effectively I did at school. And it was an important factor to love un-pattern and like go off later in life. But it surely’s one thing I’ve been conscious of with my children of attempting to by no means assist or not like form of facilitate a mindset the place they really feel like their price is connected to their efficiency in any space, whether or not it’s sports activities, whether or not it’s college, however to give attention to the core rules of curiosity and studying and connecting the dots and having enjoyable and overcoming challenges as a result of these are the abilities which can be going to really translate into grownup life and no matter they find yourself selecting, which could not be one thing within the educational area, however these are the extra like delicate abilities which can be going to serve them in any facet of life.

And I feel that’s an ideal springboard additionally into the mindset dialog, which is one other space the place you’re positively a supply of inspiration for me. And I do know folks have heard me say down right here, the road I obtained from you, which is that the whole lot will work out completely for me. And you’re such a supply of positivity and also you convey that vitality to any group that you’re in. And so I might love to listen to, I do know we’ve talked about this a bit of bit in our different podcasts, however what had been a few of your large type of sources of inspiration or studying in mindset and in crafting that mindset?

Tina: Yeah, effectively, thanks, Katie. That’s fairly a praise coming from you. So, yeah, mindset is a large a part of my life. My father truly used to wake me up within the morning and inform me I’m getting higher and higher daily in each method. And it was, it was, and I believed, you recognize, God, that’s so bizarre that my dad does this on a regular basis. And little did I do know what it did for me for my, the remainder of my life. And he simply taught me about how I, you recognize, you create your future, you create your life and it’s the phrases that you just use. You need to be very cautious with the phrases that you just use.

That, you recognize, I talked to him and I’d say one thing like, oh my God, I’m loopy. I can’t imagine I did that. And he’d say, cancel, cancel. Such as you don’t say that. , don’t ever name your self loopy. Like don’t say that even when it’s simply in a joking method. Simply taught me the facility of phrases and the vitality that you just convey to any state of affairs. He used to again within the day, my God, you recognize, I imply, it was a very long time in the past. He wished to have books on tape earlier than books on tape had been a factor. So he would have me dictate Wayne Dyer’s ebook right into a tape recorder. And I might examine or learn Wayne Dyer. And naturally I used to be not paying consideration as a result of I used to be like, I don’t care about this, however I feel subconsciously that was all ingrained in me.

And so then Wayne Dyer turned an enormous trainer to me and is the inspiration of our firm. It’s the inspiration of so many issues in my life and the choices I’ve made in I do really feel that, you recognize, we actually, we have to do our life’s work. We have to, we might create our future by the, the, the way in which we dwell our life. I feel forgiveness is a large facet of it. That’s one of many cool issues that Wayne Dyer talks about lots. And I’ve coached different family and friends members on forgiveness that I feel they’ve had life altering outcomes about. I’m not a coach or something like that. I simply, it’s only a private ardour of mine.

And I like, yeah, I simply assume our phrases are actually essential and our vitality that we convey to any state of affairs is actually essential. And, and as you recognize, my well-known mantra that I all the time say is the whole lot works out completely for me. And I feel what’s essential about that, folks assume that’s such a daring assertion to say, however the whole lot works out completely for me simply signifies that it’s figuring out completely for me on this state of affairs. And it’s not the way in which I essentially wished it to work out, however I do know that it’s figuring out completely for me. And I’ve to belief that I’ve to belief that, you recognize, the universe is offering for me or God is offering for me.

Katie: Yeah, I’ve that assertion on my wall truly in my bed room now too. And it’s actually truly helped me undertake a few of that mindset as effectively. And to your level, it’s not that the whole lot works out how I would like it to work out, however a whole lot of us can most likely look in hindsight at even issues we thought had been very tough throughout no matter level we had been going by means of them and that we’d haven’t essentially chosen. However then years later, see how that basically shifted the course of our life or offered a lesson that was actually obligatory for one thing in a while and see that it actually did work out completely, simply not how we thought completely was going to look.

And now trying again, I may even take a look at the toughest moments of my life and have like deep overwhelming gratitude for them. Despite the fact that I wouldn’t have chosen them, I can see now I wouldn’t have gotten to go on a few of these journeys I’ve been on had I not had these experiences. And in order that’s one thing I preserve prime of thoughts with my children too, is to hopefully assist them have the body of reference to be current in no matter view it as taking place completely, even when it’s not nice or gratifying on a regular basis, and to search for the lesson or to search for the wonder in it, even when it’s one thing that perhaps is tough or laborious.

I additionally love that you just introduced up forgiveness. I learn the quote years in the past that forgiveness is setting the prisoner free and realizing that the prisoner was your self. And that’s actually all the time stayed with me as a result of I feel usually we expect, oh, I can forgive them in the event that they do that, or if solely they’d apologize, if solely they’d make it proper. And I feel these are two separate issues. Forgiveness is an inner course of that we get to have full freedom over after we select. Making amends is an entire separate factor and that does contain the opposite particular person. However I feel if we will separate the forgiveness piece and understand that we all the time have the power to forgive, it doesn’t matter what the opposite particular person does or doesn’t do, there’s a lot freedom in that. And so it sounds such as you’ve helped folks attain that time lots, which is gorgeous.

Tina: Yeah, it’s superb. What occurs is that it opens up their lives. , I’ve one specific good friend who had a difficulty together with his father and abruptly he began forgiving his father and all of those different issues. His profession began taking off. Like his relationships had been even higher than they had been earlier than. So I imply, it’s superb what occurs while you forgive and it’s so laborious. And it’s not like I’m saying, oh, forgive in the future, you forgive. It’s a course of. However if you happen to simply see that it opens up a lot in your individual life and as dangerous as somebody has handled you, as horrible as one thing that somebody has accomplished to you, if you happen to might get to some extent of forgiveness, you’ll actually begin seeing nice issues occur in your life.

Katie: Yeah, and other people have most likely heard me speak about this earlier than as effectively, however for years I used to be doing all of the bodily well being stuff that I knew tips on how to do and dealing with all of the docs and had spreadsheets for the whole lot, attempting to repair all my bodily well being issues. And it wasn’t till I additionally addressed that interior emotional aspect and adjusted my mindset that every one the bodily stuff began working. And it actually highlighted for me how not solely are the thoughts and physique linked and you may’t view both one in isolation, but additionally how highly effective the interior work is for even shifting our bodily well being.

And I feel we perhaps can all consider examples of somebody who simply continues to have well being issues perhaps, however they’ve a mindset that’s type of like manifesting of their bodily well being or folks such as you who’ve this the whole lot works out completely for me mindset and who like appear to be thriving and countless vitality. And I feel that not all the time is {that a} trigger and impact relationship, definitely by any means, however that these are actually helpful components to recollect it’s each/and, not both or with regards to this stuff.

Tina: Effectively, completely. And I, you recognize, I’m clearly interviewed on fairly just a few podcasts about intestine well being, and I’m all the time speaking about the truth that we have to meditate, we have to do deep respiration or acupuncture, therapeutic massage, no matter it’s that calms you down. We must be doing this stuff to be taking good care of our intestine well being. After which the reverse is true. , you want to be taking good care of your intestine well being to ship alerts again to the mind. And, you recognize, it’s like now we have to do not forget that what’s occurring mentally is affecting us bodily and vice versa. What’s occurring bodily might be affecting us mentally. However they each precisely, they’re each working collectively.

Katie: And also you additionally talked concerning the phrases that we are saying being so essential. And I like this level as effectively. I’ve tried to concentrate to lots, particularly any phrases that come after the phrases I’m, as a result of I really feel like that’s actually highly effective for what we’re telling our brains and our our bodies. However I’ve realized slowly and this was a course of as effectively. However the interior discuss particularly that I had in direction of myself had a direct impression on my mindset and on my bodily well being as effectively. And also you talked about one saying that your dad would use with you. I’m curious you probably have some other ideas for type of nurturing a optimistic mindset towards oneself, as a result of it looks like for many individuals that’s truly probably the most tough to beat. Like we could be variety and the way we communicate to our children and our companions and our associates, however typically studying to talk kindly to ourselves could be the largest impediment.

Tina: Isn’t that the reality? I imply, and I work at this daily and I feel it’s nonetheless laborious for me, you recognize, I feel one of many issues that has helped me is simply doing day by day morning affirmations. So I’ve my affirmations and it simply units the time out to start out out on an excellent observe and saying phrases which can be affirming the way in which that you just wish to dwell your day and your life.

So I feel optimistic affirmations and the opposite factor is like I’ll discover myself beating myself up as a result of I mentioned one thing like, oh, you recognize, God, these pants are tight on me. After which I’m like, why am I consuming like a pig? Or, you recognize, I say one thing like, I’m like, oh my God, Tina, you recognize higher than to speak like that to your self. And and I’m like, OK, now I can’t beat myself up about it both. So I feel like acknowledge that you just do. All of us try this. We are saying issues that we shouldn’t be saying. However I and that’s what’s helped me is saying, would I say that to my daughter? , would I say that to my mother? Would I say that to a good friend? And no, I imply, if I’m not going to say it to them, like, by how can I say it to myself? And now we have to remind ourselves of that.

However I feel saying the morning affirmations is so highly effective to start out your time out. Simply consider one thing like I’m excellent well being or I’m I’m wholesome. I really feel good. I look good. No matter it’s that you just’re engaged on and the way you wish to set your intentions for the day. I’ve a number of. I modify them up. I’ve one which’s like enterprise associated, one which’s private associated, one which’s well being associated. So no matter it’s, I attempt to use these mantras, some that I’ve mentioned for most likely 10 years. So I feel it’s simply essential to phrases are highly effective. And I do imagine our unconscious thoughts absorbs these phrases. And so be very prescriptive concerning the phrases that you just say to your self.

Katie: I like that recommendation. And I like that we obtained to get into the mindset aspect first, as a result of I actually do imagine, like we’ve talked about, that it is a actually large key, even with regards to bodily well being, and that always it’s neglected or usually it feels insurmountable. And I feel any, even small child steps make an enormous distinction in that space. And so I like that we obtained to the touch on that.

However I do know that you just even have a ton of experience within the bodily well being aspect and particularly in intestine well being. And I feel that is additionally essential right now of yr specifically, not simply because usually when folks return to highschool, their meals can change a bit of bit as a result of a whole lot of instances you’re consuming at college now or packing lunches, but additionally as a result of like we talked about, gentle’s altering, your immune system is altering and its inputs at that time, perhaps sleep is altering since you’ve obtained children have extra homework and so they’re up later. There’s a lot occurring there.

And it looks like we’ve heard sufficient a lot from all these research about intestine well being being completely linked to all facets of well being, that something we will try this helps our intestine well being truly has optimistic ripple results into all areas of well being, from sleep to emphasize to after all, digestion to pores and skin and on and on and on. So I do know that this is sort of a life’s work and a ardour for you and that you’ve put in a whole lot of hours into determining the very best options for intestine well being.

However I might love so that you can begin broad and stroll us by means of what are among the core rules of excellent intestine well being, whether or not or not it’s issues which can be higher to keep away from, issues which can be nice to eat, whether or not it’s stress components, what are the large needle movers with regards to intestine well being?

Tina: Effectively, initially, I’m so glad that you just talked about that the truth that intestine well being has to do with nearly each facet of our total well being. And naturally, 80% of our immune system is present in our intestine. So we’re attempting so laborious to love ramp up our children and ourselves, our immune system as we head into fall and winter. And now we have to recollect, we’ve obtained to give attention to our intestine well being as a result of it’s actually dictating each facet, nearly each facet of our total well being and primarily our immune system. So you’re completely proper to say that.

So among the issues I feel to keep away from, you recognize, sadly, the world we dwell in is so detrimental to our intestine micro organism. , our intestine is comprised of all these useful microorganisms, primarily micro organism. And we all know that we live on this world that’s so offensive to our intestine well being. So one of many greatest issues is antibiotics. So we all know now to keep away from antibiotics and as a lot as attainable, however they’re present in animal merchandise, they’re present in our meals provide. So now we have to attempt to be very conscious of the meals that we’re consuming that do not need antibiotics in them.

Additionally with Glyphosate, which is the energetic ingredient in Roundup, and it’s sprayed throughout our produce. And that’s so detrimental to our intestine well being. Plenty of family and private care merchandise are very detrimental. Plenty of shampoos, toothpaste, which is why I might clearly advocate everyone take, you recognize, use Wellnesse as a result of I imply, initially, it’s so good for our hair anyway. I like the way in which it makes my hair really feel. My dad now loves it. It’s so humorous. So I positively assume now we have to be aware of our private care merchandise, too, as a result of they’re simply loaded with all of those toxins.

So there’s chemical substances and toxins throughout our, you recognize, the world that we’re residing in. And so we actually must be specializing in taking good care of our intestine well being. Sadly, the soil that we’re consuming off of doesn’t have a whole lot of the microbes that we actually had been used to getting our ancestors used to get. So we, you recognize, it’s good to eat fermented meals. Undoubtedly would advocate fermented meals, simply not as a substitute for a high quality probiotic. That’s the place I feel the large mistake is made, is folks assume fermented meals is a substitute for a probiotic. It has tons of vitamins. It’s very supportive of your intestine well being, however it’s not a substitute for a probiotic. It doesn’t as a result of the large… you recognize, facet of probiotics, after all, is survivability. And the spore-based probiotic strains that we work with truly, we all know survive and get to the intestines alive.

So I might actually give attention to avoiding, like antibiotics, avoiding Glyphosate, which is the energetic ingredient in Roundup, and give attention to consuming natural meals, definitely consuming fermented meals, after which taking a high-quality probiotic could be, you recognize, actually supportive of your intestine well being, and doing issues like meditation, strolling in nature, being outdoors, getting within the daylight. All these issues are actually essential for our intestine well being.

Katie: And we did an entire episode about this, so I’ll hyperlink to it within the present notes. Folks can go actually deep. But in addition I really feel like there’s a whole lot of myths surrounding probiotics. So I like that you just touched on that fermented meals and probiotics, each essential however separate, they don’t substitute one another. We want the fiber and the enzymes and the whole lot that comes with fermented meals. And likewise there’s issues particular to probiotics that aren’t essentially simply going to be in fermented meals. However I really feel like there’s many extra myths past that. And plenty of of them are nonetheless quite common, like issues round refrigerated probiotics or what strains are finest and in the event that they survive within the intestine or not.

And so I might love so that you can break down a few of these myths as effectively and discuss concerning the distinction between spore primarily based probiotics and different probiotics. As a result of this was new info to me once I first met you.

Tina: Yeah, so the largest fantasy is the refrigeration fantasy. , so many, even docs will say, oh, with the intention to be an excellent probiotic, it must be refrigerated. And the explanation why they mentioned that was as a result of, you recognize, you want a dwell microorganism with the intention to even be outlined as a probiotic. So a probiotics definition is a dwell microorganism that confers a profit onto the host, which is the physique. So that they’re pondering, oh, effectively, with the intention to be alive, it must be within the fridge. However when you consider it, if a probiotic pressure must be alive, to, they will’t even stand up to the room temperature of the shop shelf. It must be within the fridge to remain alive. What on the earth will occur when it goes into your physique, which is 98.6, a lot hotter than the room temperature of the shop shelf? And the reply is that they’re gonna die.

And let’s say the temperature doesn’t even kill them. By the point they get to the abdomen, which may be very acidic and meant to be the gastric barrier, the vast majority of strains in the marketplace are simply killed off by that temperature, the physique temperature, in addition to the acid within the abdomen. So this concept of a probiotic needing to be refrigerated with the intention to be an excellent probiotic might be one of many greatest myths on the market. And it nonetheless must be debunked. The factor with the strains that we work with, they’re truly dormant. They’re not dwell, like within the bottle, they’re not alive. They’re truly dormant. After which once they get to the intestines, in order that they make that journey out of your throat by means of the gastric system. And once they get into the intestines, that’s once they take their spore shell off. And that’s once they go into their dwell vegetative cell, dwell vegetative cell state. And that’s once they begin doing the magic within the microbiome.

So now we have to recollect, a probiotic doesn’t must be alive within the fridge. A probiotic must be alive in your intestines. And that’s one of many greatest myths. So we actually wanna be sure that the probiotic is alive within the intestines.

After which I feel one of many different large myths out there may be that you just want a excessive depend, a excessive CFU depend. So CFU is Colony Forming Items. You’ll see that on the entrance of the bottle. It’ll say 50 billion CFUs, 250 billion CFUs. Now you see one thing with 500 billion CFUs. And there may be truly no research. There are not any research behind exhibiting extra is best. In truth, there may be research exhibiting now that like typically when you might have a number of totally different strains and plenty of totally different excessive variety of CFU truly might trigger some points and we might go into that later.

However the essential factor to know is of these three billion or nonetheless many billion CFUs you might have at a product, what sort of change are they making within the intestine? And one of many first research we did was one thing referred to as a intestine mannequin research. And we solely have three billion CFUs in our product. And we noticed a 30% favorable shift within the intestine after solely two and a half weeks. And that is profound to see that sort of a change in such a brief period of time with simply three billion CFUs. And so, don’t get caught up within the 50 billion, 500 billion. That’s actually all advertising. And there’s actually no analysis behind that.

Katie: That’s so good to know. And the factor I beloved about this once I realized that was that it meant that now I might get probiotics to my children way more simply as a result of the refrigerated ones wanted to be taken in these very particular situations and also you wished the youngsters to swallow them and a whole lot of my youthful ones on the time couldn’t swallow drugs.

However once I realized concerning the spore-based ones and the way they might survive by means of the intestine and survive at warmth, I spotted I might combine these into meals, into smoothies, and it was a lot, a lot simpler to get them for my children than in the event that they needed to swallow a capsule solely. And so I like that.

And I feel you guys have made this even simpler now as a result of the gummies simply obtained to my home lately and my little ones are virtually addicted to those. However I might guess it’s an analogous idea as a result of they’re secure and might survive all the way in which to the small gut. It’s tremendous to chew them. It’s tremendous for them to be in a gummy and so they nonetheless get digested and assimilated the identical method.

Tina: Yep, precisely. Precisely. It’s actually, that’s what’s so nice about these spores is that they’re so sturdy that we truly examined them. You had talked about we might open them and blend them with meals. You might truly bake with them. We examined them as much as 455 levels and so they stay utterly secure. So you might bake them and no matter if you happen to’re making some sort of muffin or brownie or one thing you might do or no matter. As I used to place in my son’s piping scorching oatmeal. And that’s, it’s actually, good for youths to have the ability to have that possibility.

I imply, a whole lot of adults don’t even wish to swallow drugs. After which after all the gummy is simply, oh my God, that’s been actually thrilling as a result of they style so good. I imply, they style actually good. In order that’s been actually essential. And that’s essential to us simply to have the compliance so far as folks taking it. And I feel once they style good, folks will take it extra usually. And in order that was extra essential to us. We waited a protracted, very long time to supply a gummy as a result of we had been like, oh, you recognize, there’s some components that aren’t as nice as we’d wish to be. We wish to be tremendous, tremendous clear, however we did the least quantity of something and we had been simply capable of, you recognize, we wish compliance. It’s actually essential for us to have compliance with taking the product. And that appears to be what the gummy is doing.

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Katie: And one other cool factor with regards to intestine well being that truly I feel ties in and circles again to, again to highschool as effectively, is that research frequently are exhibiting that a lot of our neurotransmitters are made in our intestine, truly, and the intestine’s known as the second mind, and there’s so many connections there.

And I do know for lots of mothers particularly, it is a time of yr the place there’s extra stress, extra overwhelm, definitely extra operating children round, extra scheduling. And it seems that we will truly actually use supporting our intestine to our benefit with regards to stress and psychological well being as effectively. And also you guys have accomplished some fairly fascinating work round particular strains which can be tied in right here. So I might love so that you can clarify that as a result of I’ve been utilizing JustCalm lots these days, and it looks like it actually does make a noticeable distinction on stress, however I might love so that you can clarify why.

Tina: Yeah, so simply the intestine alone, simply taking the spore-based probiotic alone, our signature product goes to assist with that as a result of we all know 90% of our serotonin is produced in our intestine. Dopamine is produced in our intestine. GABA, which is the calming hormone, is produced in our intestine. So it’s so critically essential to be specializing in our intestine well being after we’re speaking about psychological well being and our temper. We see this on a regular basis. So many individuals will perhaps come to our product as a result of they’ve fuel or bloating or diarrhea, constipation, no matter it might be, after which they’ll say to us, oh my gosh, you recognize what, like I’m beginning to, like, I’m in a greater temper. I’ve extra vitality. I imply, would this have something to do with the probiotic? And I’m like, sure. , within the pharmaceutical trade, it’s like, Uncomfortable side effects embody suicidal ideas, dying, all these horrible issues. And it’s like right here negative effects embody higher temper, extra vitality and higher weight administration we’ve even seen.

So we all know that the probiotic alone helps with simply the leakiness of the intestine. You might return, such as you mentioned, to a different episode and we might speak about leaky intestine. And we all know that when you might have a leaky intestine, that’s the irritation will begin going to a lot of your totally different organs, considered one of which is your mind. And that’s a part of what causes the difficulty. However now we’ve been specializing in the analysis that you just talked about with this pressure referred to as Bifidobacterium Longum 1714. And this pressure is known as a psychobiotic. And a psychobiotic is a probiotic pressure that’s serving to help that gut-brain entry. So we all know now we have this intestine mind entry. It’s the communication superhighway, I wish to name it, as a result of the intestine is sending alerts to the mind and the mind is sending alerts to the intestine. And we’ve identified this for a very long time.

We all know after we’re enthusiastic about one thing, we get butterflies in our abdomen. We all know after we’re nervous, we begin to go to the lavatory. These are all connections, these are all alerts going backwards and forwards from the intestine to the mind, the mind to the intestine.

And so we all know that this Bifidobacterium Longum 1714 Pressure that’s present in our JustCalm product truly has been in a position, it’s been proven in research to have folks have a greater notion of stress. So simply that potential to deal with stress higher truly helps convey us extra into that theta waves like mindset, so we’re extra in that movement state. We all know that it’s truly serving to with cognitive operate and skill to focus higher. So it was some actually compelling research on the 1714 pressure.

Katie: That’s so fascinating. And naturally, the opposite element that we all know that’s rather well studied right here is again to the immune system element and that when our intestine well being is compromised, our immune well being is by nature compromised as effectively. And it looks like there’s a really sturdy hyperlink with irritation right here. And it looks like an increasing number of research simply preserve pointing towards the frequent hyperlink between most persistent illnesses truly being rooted in irritation in lots of instances. And so anytime we will profit our intestine well being and provides it the chance to scale back irritation within the physique and to course of that extra successfully, it looks like it is also gonna have a extremely optimistic impression for the intestine.

However are there any particular methods, particularly as we transfer into form of chilly and flu season that additionally will help help immune well being particularly from a gut-focused perspective?

Tina: Yeah, so all the conventional issues that I talked about, after which now we have a IgG product, which is an immunoglobulin G that has been actually, actually supportive. I imply, it’s actually supportive of the liner of your intestine, actually supportive of your immune system. We all know that IgG is principally an antibody that helps assault the, any viruses, toxins, issues like that, that are available in, that our physique naturally makes immunoglobulin G. And we all know that this IgG product that now we have truly offers us 25% extra of the IgG in our intestine, which is so essential as a result of 90% of our immune system is present in our intestine. In order that’s one other technique that we like to make use of, particularly, you recognize, as you get into the autumn and winter months. I personally take all of it yr lengthy as a result of I feel it’s such a fricking phenomenal product. However I additionally, you recognize, I perceive that perhaps folks would possibly wish to simply take it, you recognize, within the fall and winter season, however I might extremely advocate that.

After which simply is from an immune perspective perspective is simply what we simply preserve speaking about, like calming ourselves down as a result of it actually does make a distinction on how our intestine is functioning. We’ve obtained to calm ourselves down and we live on this world that’s so, so, everybody’s wired. It’s like virtually like, you recognize, you get an award for being extra wired and being busier. And I don’t need, we speak about modeling for our children. We are able to’t mannequin that to our children. We’ve got obtained to, you recognize, present them that now we have a lot success and happiness after we are simply not wired on a regular basis and we don’t must do the whole lot and be the whole lot to everybody. So, and I do know it’s laborious as a mother and a younger mother. And I simply, I want somebody had instructed me that once I children had been little, simply to, you recognize, lower, give your self grace, go sluggish, nothing, the whole lot doesn’t must be excellent and simply, you recognize, focus in your, your psychological well being too.

Katie: Yeah, completely. That’s so essential. And that is purely anecdotal, so not medical recommendation. However with considered one of my daughters, I seen that the mix of IgG and the probiotic appears to essentially assist. Really, she had some recurring eczema when she was youthful, and that appeared to assist her physique actually clear that. And he or she doesn’t have it in any respect anymore. So I don’t know if there’s something particular to that within the research, however in her case, that appeared to be type of just like the magic factor that helped her eczema for anyone on the market who may need eczema with their children.

Tina: Yeah, effectively, it’s all concerning the leakiness of the intestine. With the probiotic alone, we all know now we have a double-blind human scientific trial on leaky intestine that’s been actually supportive of the intestine well being, that we all know that’s supporting the intestine, the barrier and the intestinal barrier. And now we all know that the IgG product is additional help of that barrier. And simply getting rid, I imply, simply holding these toxins from seeping into our bloodstream is actually essential when individuals are coping with autoimmune points, once they’re coping with allergy symptoms. We have to seal up that intestinal barrier. I can’t overstate that sufficient. And people two merchandise are simply such, such large instruments in your toolbox.

Katie: And I do know as somebody who’s a busy enterprise proprietor and a mother and the whole lot else that you’ve in your plate, however you managed to remain, like I mentioned, so energetic and in good well being. So on a private stage, I might love any ideas from you which can be form of your individual private 80-20, whether or not or not it’s day by day habits, day by day dietary supplements, something that you just do as a part of a routine that you just really feel like contributes to that.

Tina: Yeah, so I get up each morning and I do my affirmations. I meditate after which I am going for my morning stroll that I like a lot. Even within the winter, I’m from Chicago and I nonetheless will go within the winter and I’ll, you recognize, stroll and simply get outdoors in nature. And I even love the snow within the winter. So I’m an enormous complement taker. Clearly I take our Simply Thrive Probiotic, our IgG, K2, our Prebiotic. I take all of our merchandise just about as a result of we don’t launch something that I don’t utterly agree with or that’s not researched and primarily based in science. That’s been essential to us.

I additionally take Brocelite, a Cell Chlorophane Complement, and I take Vitamin D, Vitamin C, Fish Oil. What else do I take? I take lots. I’m attempting to consider what else I’d, I simply, I take so many, however I’m simply, I’m large. I simply imagine that our soil is so depleted. It doesn’t have the vitamins that we wish to be taking.

After which after all I’ve been specializing in intestine well being as a result of the whole lot else that you just’re attempting to soak up goes to be absorbed that significantly better when your intestine is wholesome. And I feel that’s what now we have to recollect. We’ve got a lot irritation occurring in our intestine. And if it’s infected, it’s not absorbing vitamins. So it’s actually essential that I feel folks begin with their intestine well being after which in any other case all these different dietary supplements and all these different wholesome meals that we’re consuming aren’t actually working.

I additionally am an enormous fan of intermittent fasting. I feel that folks ought to do it in the event that they assume it really works for them. However for me, it really works nice. I did it, I used to be motivated. I do know so many individuals had been motivated by it to drop some pounds. I used to be motivated by it due to the analysis, the way it helped the analysis in intestine well being. It’s very supportive of your intestine well being. We all know that sure micro organism truly proliferate in a starved state. So I’ll do intermittent fasting and I normally simply do like a 14 to 16 hour quick, however no matter works for you. However we do know that there’s analysis behind that.

Katie: I agree. And I do know it’s gotten, there’s considerably like controversy, particularly round ladies and fasting, however I all the time form of put intermittent fasting or time-restricted consuming in a separate class as a result of that is traditionally one thing we’ve all the time accomplished in some type and we’re definitely not consuming whereas we’re sleeping. So all of us are literally doing a little type of intermittent fasting anyway. It’s simply experimenting with the timeline of that. And to your level, I feel it is rather particular person and it’s all the time price being your individual major healthcare supplier and doing the experimentation to determine what’s going to give you the results you want.

For me, after a whole lot of experimentation, I spotted I really feel nice on a time-restricted schedule, particularly if I shift it earlier within the day. That actually tends to assist with circadian biology. So I attempt to get morning daylight as quickly as attainable after waking up. After which I attempt to eat in a extra ahead shifted window within the day. So I’ll eat a extremely nutrient dense breakfast with protein comparatively quickly after waking up. After which I’ll attempt to cease consuming for certain by sundown, however usually by like 5 PM. And I’ve seen that my sleep improves once I shift that consuming window earlier.

And I solely say that as a result of I feel a whole lot of the preliminary intermittent fasting recommendation was from guys and their biology works a bit of totally different. And a whole lot of them would skip breakfast and eat it like one or two within the afternoon after which eat until eight o’clock at evening, which definitely works for some folks. However as a lady, I’ve seen for me that earlier window tends to work higher. So if somebody’s experimenting and never seeing good outcomes, that might be one suggestion I might have is shift the window earlier and see if that makes a distinction for you.

Tina: Yeah, I like that. I don’t do it that method. So I may need to offer {that a} attempt. However I like to really feel, you’re completely proper although concerning the, you recognize, even if you happen to simply cease consuming earlier and also you go to mattress and you then simply, precisely 12 hours will not be that tough to do and also you’re, you recognize, simply begin consuming a bit of bit earlier.

Katie: Completely. And that’s like, once more, again to that type of optimistic suggestions loop of stress and sleep and intestine well being and all of those components. The good factor is that if they’re not working for you, they will form of grow to be a unfavourable suggestions loop. However if you happen to even make optimistic child steps in any of these, it turns right into a optimistic suggestions loop and so they construct on one another. So then vitality will get higher. It’s simpler to decide to doing the issues you recognize you wish to do. You may make these habits extra constant and you then proceed to construct that vitality and that motivation. So I like that we’ve gotten to cowl so lots of the facets of that optimistic suggestions loop as we speak.

And some questions I additionally like to ask towards the top of interviews. I do know I’ve requested you these earlier than, however I’m curious you probably have any, whether or not or not it’s new ebook suggestions or latest books which have had a optimistic impression on you and in that case, what they’re and why.

Tina: Yeah, it’s humorous as a result of I all the time return to the 4 Agreements as a result of I do know it’s been used so usually, however I learn it so usually and I simply gave it to a younger household good friend who’s a younger man who’s going off to varsity and he mentioned, Mrs. Anderson, oh my God, I simply learn this ebook and it actually made such a distinction and you recognize, I’m actually having fun with it. And I simply, I’ve to say it once more, as a result of I do assume it’s price rereading if folks haven’t learn it as a result of it actually has made an enormous distinction in my life.

And I talked about Wayne Dyer and considered one of his books, he’s obtained so many nice books, however one of many ones that I can see clearly now could be actually, actually good. And that’s most likely the place I realized probably the most about forgiveness. And I simply assume it’s actually nice for anybody that’s perhaps combating forgiveness. His, and simply his life story, it’s principally like a life story and the way you might see a lot clearer, you recognize, years later and the way it makes such an impression in your life to love, forgive and watch out with the phrases that you just select. And yeah, these are some books that basically have been impactful to me and I reread them on a regular basis.

Katie: I’ll embody hyperlinks to these within the present notes for you guys listening on the go. All of that’s all the time at wellnessmama.fm together with hyperlinks to all the merchandise you guys carry. And I imagine there’s additionally a particular low cost from you guys that might be within the present notes as effectively. And lastly, any parting recommendation for the listeners as we speak that may very well be associated to motherhood or intestine well being or mindset or any of the issues we’ve talked about or completely unrelated life recommendation.

Tina: Yeah, you recognize what I might say, simply because we had been speaking about children, I feel, simply spend time together with your children. I feel that’s most likely one of many greatest issues that has impacted my relationship and my husband’s relationship with our children is simply the truth that we’re spending a whole lot of time, we’ve, we spent a whole lot of time with them and it’s these little, these moments of windshield time, which we, a good friend of ours coined so eloquently, you recognize, simply you’re pondering like, oh, if you happen to’re driving them right here and there, you’re not likely spending, it’s not high quality time. Consider me, that’s typically probably the most high quality time you get is driving them backwards and forwards to actions. They begin to discuss extra. So simply take pleasure in these instances with them and be glad about them as a result of they go by so quick. As you recognize, how unhappy I’ve been that my children have gotten older.

Katie: It does go by so quick. I feel my oldest one, turning 16, was an enormous, like a form of lightning bolt second for me of realizing simply how little time I might have left with him nonetheless at house. And so, yeah, I like that recommendation. I feel that’s an ideal place to wrap up for as we speak. And Tina, it’s all the time such a pleasure to speak to you. I’m so glad that we obtained to catch up and that we obtained to file it as we speak. Thanks a lot in your time.

Tina: Thanks, Katie. At all times an exquisite pleasure to speak to you.

Katie: And thanks as all the time to all of you for listening and sharing your most beneficial sources, your time, your vitality, and your consideration with us as we speak. We’re each so grateful that you just did, and I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the following episode of the Wellness Mama Podcast.

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