RealClimate: Pressured responses: Sep 2021

Mann’s backside line recommendation? Elect higher Politicians – I imagine that’s ineffective recommendation, It’s an enormous Cop Out

Different traditional feedback by the general public listening to Michael Mann on ‘Is Local weather Change On a Crash Course?’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVa8eDqu3Pc (solely for example of the results occurring at the moment) went like this:

Mann’s strolling in the direction of a cliff so cease earlier than the sting – is a really poor analogy. A walker can cease strolling.. however we’re extra like in a Canoe on a River heading downstream in the direction of a large waterfall … we are actually at a degree at which No Energy on Earth can get you to the shore and security … you waited too lengthy … bye bye….the present will stick with it to your doom….there’s no method out.

Quickly Micheal Mann can be taking interviews from his underground bunker. I can hear him now, “We will nonetheless keep away from the worst to return……”

My despair is over the dearth of political will to do what must be completed. A few of us have been screaming with our hair on fireplace for half a century.

… there is no such thing as a hope till that system modifications.

I’ve disengaged just because I imagine (the poor et al are going to endure most, whereas) … the folks whose greed allowed the scenario to get up to now will proceed residing comfortably off of the earnings they earned.

Among the despair is pushed by a practical evaluation of how (un)seemingly change (is) to happen even with our greatest efforts.

Did the fossil gas executives get their bonuses, they did oh thank god, as a result of that’s all of the powers that be care about

Nicely, certain, it’s not too late, (in principle), to do all the things we will to avert the worst case eventualities, however we received’t do these issues, as a result of they might require a large, IMMEDIATE, endeavor, which might imply gargantuan sacrifice on the a part of practically 8 billion folks, on a everlasting foundation.

We’re just like the dinosaurs, simply earlier than the asteroid hit.

Prof Mann is a comfortable contact for the fossil gas business. He’s good at theorizing, pontificating & wringing his palms, however no good at utilizing his mind or voice to encourage the fast shrinkage in world financial development crucial to scale back greenhouse fuel emissions. He’s as a lot use as a chocolate hockey stick.

What does a world with “no new fossil gas tasks” seem like ? If our flesh pressers even began down that path, we’d vote them out. Type of leaves us dangling off a cliff, huh?

Too many are merely trapped in survival mode, residing verify to verify, or these with a paying job are discovering demanding hours and at house work. This has to alter or sure, not a lot will get completed.

It’s already too late. As a species, we are going to do far too little to cease or reverse the mess we’ve made. There are too many individuals and we’re collectively too silly.

I assumed I used to be alone on this life determination too. We determined to not have youngsters as a result of we didn’t need them to witness the loss of life of the planet. Folks thought we had been loopy on the time. We had been proper in our determination.

Mann must get exterior, half a day of direct daylight now makes (a) a lot stronger argument than he does.

I’ve to confess that I don’t see despair round me regarding world local weather disruption. What I see is that few folks care concerning the concern and definitely aren’t going to make any sacrifices to alter the trajectory of the place we’re going. This is not going to finish effectively.

Michael Mann is sweet speaking about his information of local weather, however won’t ever come throughout the answer.

False hope. Petroleum runs the economic system. We’re already locked in

Politically, we get much less completed than ever earlier than. Why ought to anybody have hope whereas the institution received’t/ can’t take any motion in any respect?

Come on of us, everyone knows that we’ve reached the purpose of no return…. This horrendous debacle has been two centuries within the making…. International warming handed the tipping level about 20 years in the past…. Hell, we handed the tipping factors in 2020…. the tipping level was within the 70s, now sit again and benefit from the journey!!!

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Why does this matter, to me, a lot? As a result of I see it regarding different essential points which might be being uncared for for my part. OK, effectively if I can repeat a part of latest Ref above :-

James G. Dyke: extracts of Q&A – The autonomous Earth: How people created a planetary civilisation that’s past their management

A: – I’ll provide you with a up to date instance: on the
second there’s lots of dialogue about making an attempt to
restrict warming to not more than 1.5 levels Celsius
proper, you already know. Don’t inform anybody however that’s not
going to occur, proper. It’s not going to occur.

Now I’m not allowed to say we is not going to restrict
warming to not more than 1.5 levels Celsius.
I scandalize folks once I say that.

What I ought to say is that there aren’t any bodily
the explanation why we can’t restrict warming to no
greater than 1.5 levels Celsius however there wants
to be ample political will with a view to produce
the modifications required, proper?

Now if we simply have a look at the Cultural or the
Socio-Financial-Political elements then it appears
like political will is form of legendary substance
that we simply want to supply extra of so as
for us to get to do the De-Carbonization.

So we appear to scrabble round for not likely
having an understanding how these cultural
dynamics appear to be working or failing.

And naturally a very essential part
for our clarification of why it’s proving so laborious is
as a result of the large quantity of vitality
that fossil fuels at the moment produce (being 80%).

I imply that’s the foremost problem. So simply to
ask for political will is to ask for nothing!!!!
https://youtu.be/UiyXI6pVzk8?t=2949

REF entire remark right here –
https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2021/09/forced-responses-sep-2021/#comment-795701

Voluntary Simplicity or Involuntary Collapse.

In fact there’s one other method – Mandated Involuntary Simplicity – that may come to go too.

The identical as Taxation works. It’s Mandated and Enforced by Governments on behalf of the Folks of a State as a complete. Little completely different than Slavery, Homicide, Theft, Fraud and Environmental injury is Unlawful as a result of it’s seen as Immoral and subsequently it’s Socially Unacceptable.

Then there’s this factor referred to as Political Will? If something is definite, it’s that change is definite. The world we’re planning for at the moment is not going to exist on this type tomorrow.

“For time and the world don’t stand nonetheless. Change is the legislation of life. And those that look solely to the previous or the current are sure to overlook the longer term.” – John F. Kennedy